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    Vreau sa iau un HDD de 2 TB. Ce modele de 2 TB aveti ?
    Ma refer la cele de ~ 300 lei, toshina, wd, seagate etc...
    Nu dau 700 de lei cum da Penemue pe un hdd nici daca am garantia ca ma tine 100 de ani.
    Ma intereseaza zgomotul, rpm, fiabilitatea.
    Ie bine sa fii prost!

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    Salutare,

    Nu ai specificat ce tip doresti, banuiesc ca vrei intern.

    Eu am doua Seagate SV35 de 2 TB de aproximativ un an. HDD-urile pentru supraveghere sunt optimizate pentru functionare / scriere continua, mai putin pentru citire.

    HDD-urile de laptop de 2.5'' fac mai putin zgomot si sunt mai reci insa in ceea ce priveste timpul de acces...
    Din ce am inteles ci HDD-urile de 3.5'' cu 5400 / 5900 sunt mai silentioase / reci.

    In cazul in care vrei si SH, ar fi ok un HGST din seria Enterprise.

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    700 era pt 4 TB (778 ron e acum, hgst nas 4tb).

    Mergi cu WD Blue chiar daca e la 5400 rpm ( e de fapt 5400-5900 rpm, acel intellispeed sau cum se numea (seria wd blue e formata acum din wd blue vechi merged cu seria wd green)
    Daca vrei Seagate , mergi pe Skyhawk sau Ironwolf ... barracuda ignora-l, are failure rate relativ mare.
    Ignora Toshiba, sunt slabe.
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    Seagate are intradevar o rata mai mare de fail (la HDD-urile de desktop cel putin) dar cica la modelele mai noi lucrurile s-au schimbat.

    While this particular 3TB model had a painfully high rate of failure, subsequent Seagate models such as their 4TB drive, model: ST4000DM000, are performing well with an annualized 2014 failure rate of just 2.6% as of December 31, 2014. These drives come with 3-year warranties and show no signs of hitting the wall.

    Backblaze currently has over 12,000 of these Seagate 4TB drives deployed and we have just purchased 5,000 more for use in our Backblaze Vaults.
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    Acum am un Seagate de 1 TB din noiembrie 2012 si pot spune ca nu are nici un defect si sper sa ramana asa, sa ma mai tina.
    Inainte tot Seagate am avut si a crapat dupa 6 ani.
    Nu cumpar HDD de 5400 rpm
    Last edited by MusicON; 05-31-2017 at 10:27 PM.
    Ie bine sa fii prost!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikalai2 View Post
    Seagate are intradevar o rata mai mare de fail (la HDD-urile de desktop cel putin) dar cica la modelele mai noi lucrurile s-au schimbat.



    De aici
    Articolele de pe hardware.fr sunt mai relevante pt user normali (backblaze foloseste hdd-urile intr-un mod mai "neortodox" unde sunt supuse la vibratii suplimentare samd care nu se aplica la end useri)/

    Ex vezi : http://www.hardware.fr/articles/954-6/disques-durs.html

    HDD-uri vandute in 2016, numarul reprezinta doar hdd-uri care au fost returnate la garantie intre 3 luni si 12 luni de la cumparare, deci hdd-uri care sunt returnate dupa cate zile sau care mor prematur (in primele 3 luni) nu sunt incluse in statistici)

    ---


    Seagate 0,72% (contre 0,69%)
    Toshiba 0,80% (contre 1,15%)
    Western 1,04% (contre 1,03%)
    HGST 1,13% (contre 0,60%)

    ^ contre = ce e in paranteze e AFR-ul calculat la articolul anterior. Numarul e dificil de folosit pt ca depinde de volumul de hdd-uri vandute si nu avem numarul.

    in articol cateva linii sunt cu italic care spune ca s-au vandut doar intre 100...200 bucati din acel produs (restul sunt toate peste 100 bucati vandute)


    cele mai nefiabile :

    3,48% Seagate Archive HDD 8 To <-- astea sunt cu shingled recording, viteze mici de scriere dar capacitate mare, poate un procent mic sunt returnate si din motivul asta desi s-ar putea sa fie afr mare si din cauza technologiei noi si bug-uri in firmware
    3,48% Hitachi Travelstar 5K1000 1 To <-- astea sunt de laptop, nu m-ar mira sa fie failure rate mai mare pt ca sunt abuzate mai tare in laptop-uri
    3,42% Toshiba X300 5 To
    3,37% WD Red WD60EFRX 6 To
    3,06% WD Red Pro WD4001FFSX 4 To

    Voici les classements obtenus par capacité en 3.5" pour les disques vendus ŕ plus de 100 exemplaires (italique pour 100 ŕ 200 ventes) :

    2 To :

    2,39% Toshiba DT01ACA200
    1,25% WD Red Pro WD2001FFSX
    1,10% WD Blue WD20EZRZ
    0,82% Seagate Barracuda 7200.14
    0,81% WD Red WD20EFRX
    0,77% Seagate Enterprise NAS HDD ST2000VN0001
    0,74% WD Purple WD20PURX
    0,72% WD Green WD20EZRX
    0,56% Seagate NAS HDD ST2000VN000
    0,45% WD Black WD2003FZEX
    0,43% Seagate Desktop SSHD ST2000DX001
    0,41% Seagate SpinPoint M9T ST2000LM003
    0,36% WD Re WD2000FYYZ
    0,00% Seagate Surveillance HDD ST2000VX000
    0,00% WD SE WD2000F9YZ
    0,00% Seagate Enterprise Capacity ST2000NM0033
    0,00% Toshiba E300
    0,00% Toshiba P300

    3 To :

    3,04% WD Black WD3003FZEX
    2,89% Toshiba DT01ACA300
    2,29% Seagate Enterprise NAS HDD ST3000VN0001
    2,23% WD Red Pro WD3001FFSX
    2,18% WD Green WD30EZRX
    1,52% Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST3000DM001
    1,41% Seagate NAS HDD ST3000VN000
    0,96% Western Red WD30EFRX
    0,75% Seagate Surveillance HDD ST3000VX000

    4 To :

    2,37% WD Purple WD40PURX
    2,02% WD Red WD40EFRX
    1,89% Seagate Desktop SSHD ST4000DX001
    1,53% Seagate Desktop HDD.15 ST4000DM000
    1,04% Seagate NAS HDD ST4000VN000
    1,02% WD Blue WD40EZRZ
    0,95% WD Green WD40EZRX
    0,90% WD RE WD4000FYYZ
    0,56% Toshiba MD04ACA40
    0,40% Seagate Constellation ES ST4000NM0033
    0,39% Hitachi Deskstar 7K4000
    0,37% Toshiba X300
    0,21% Hitachi Deskstar NAS
    0,00% WD Black WD4003FZEX

    5 / 6 To :

    3,42% Toshiba Toshiba X300 5 To
    3,37% WD Red WD60EFRX
    2,67% WD Green WD60EZRX
    1,43% WD Red WD50EFRX
    0,87% Seagate Enterprise NAS HDD ST6000VN0001
    0,74% Seagate Desktop HDD ST6000DM001
    0,00% Seagate NAS HDD ST6000VN0021
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    In primul, cei de la Blackbazev, ovh, amazon s3, microsoft azure etc nu folosesc hdd-uri cum le folosim noi acasa, simpli utilizatori.
    Daca acel produs are failure rate 5 % nu inseamna ca si al tau se poate strica. Chiar si daca iti cumperi unul cu failure rate de 0.5 % iti poate crapa la cateva luni. Depinde de noroc. Eu am avut experienta buna cu seagate.

    ///Am adaugat in cos la pcgarage Seagate SkyHawk 2TB 5900RPM SATA-III 64MB
    Maine seara ma decid si dau comanda.
    Last edited by MusicON; 05-31-2017 at 11:31 PM.
    Ie bine sa fii prost!

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    Am luat Seagate SkyHawk 2TB 5900RPM SATA-III 64MB
    Ie bine sa fii prost!

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    Eu nu as lua ceva sub 7200 RPM, 64 MB buffer... In rest, din punctul meu de vedere, nu prea conteaza marca. Cred ca mai mult conteaza in ce conditii le tii/folosesti. Momentan am in PC 3x Seagate Barracuda 1TB in stare perfecta. Au 6000, 10000, respectiv 17000 ore de functionare.

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    Ce conteaza asa mult ca are 5900 rpm pana la urma. Il folosesc pentru stocare.
    Windows-ul il tin pe SSD.
    Ie bine sa fii prost!

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    A venit HDD-ul azi.
    Ma surprinde ca nu are suruburi, absolut nimic. A venit chel. Astia sunt panarame ?
    Ie bine sa fii prost!

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    Asa vin cam toate : ))

    La valoarea ta ,te fac niste suruburi sa-l folosesti cu drag

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    Scurtezi niste holsuruburi cu flexul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeTraveler View Post
    Scurtezi niste holsuruburi cu flexul.
    Sau mai bine bati cuie, nu mai au moarte alea

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldmusic View Post
    Sau mai bine bati cuie, nu mai au moarte alea
    de asemenea ii poti aplica si niste super glue

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    Lasati-va de d'astea ca da rau
    Ie bine sa fii prost!

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    Pai nu se dau suruburi la HDD, daca nu ai de la placa de baza, te descurci. Eu nu am primit vreodata suruburi la HDD, fie ca a fost Seagate, fie WD.
    Eu am niste sanii de plastic in care bag HDD-urile, nu e nevoie de suruburi. Vezi poate se gasesc sa cumperi

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    M-a ajutat un prieten, am luat de la el super glue de caine si sta bine acum.
    Ie bine sa fii prost!

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    Cred ca nu exista suruburi in packet nici la cele retail.

    Puteai sa folosesti niste elastic, scapai si de vibratii.

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